Parakiles, a u.s. foreign policy consultant and an associate at lse ideas. that is a think tank at the london school of economics. thank you so much for being with us. appreciate it. good morning. so how significant might gordon sondland s public testimony be, do you think, in light of these new details in the wall street journal that he apparently kept the trump administration apprised of efforts to get ukraine to investigate the bidens ahead of the president s infamous july 25th call? i think it s a little bit tricky to decide in advance how significant one thing or another might be. but there is some suggestion that sondland s testimony might be more significant than the testimonies we ve seen so far because first of all, sondland had to revise his previous testimony given behind closed doors. he reversed his decision to not testify originally. sondland is caught in the middle of all this.
From the vice president s office. vice president mike pence s press secretary, katie waldman, i asked her for comment on these attacks from the president on an adviser to the vice president. and her response was to say, jennifer is a state department employee. now, while that may be technically accurate, jennifer williams is indeed a state department employee, she is detailed to the vice president s office like so many other career foreign service officers who are detailed to the white house, who become then white house advisers, white house officials in their current capacities. and so that was quite remarkable to see the distance being put there. but democrats are likely to also raise questions about whether once again this is the president attempting to intimidate a witness. jennifer williams, while she did already testify behind closed doors, in just a couple of days on tuesday, jennifer williams is expected to come forward and testify publicly on capitol hill. jeremy diamond, cnn,