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On the demands for witness testimony. he allowed in a lot of evidence, including hollywood access tape and these other witnesses. obviously trump had never been convicted or found guilty in those cases. so there was a lot of evidence here that the defense could say should not have been brought in to the case or should have been handled differently. the problem for president trump is that this is a mixed question of law and fact. there s some legal issues here like the ones i mentioned allowing in certain types of testimony. when it comes to factual determinations, the court of appeals tends to be leery of overturning those. jury decisions are iron-plated because you have to show that they were clearly erroneous. they re not going to show that here with all of this testimony. so the only way to unravel this is to say the jury heard things ....
As well. here s what he said when the attorney asked him whether or not he thought that stars could get away with the kind of battery that was accused in this case. watch this. historically that s true with stars. true with stars that they can grab women by the [bleep]? if you look over the last million years that s been largely true. not always. unfortunately or fortunately. and you consider yourself to be a star? i think you can say that. martha: so andy, what do you think the impact was of these pieces of tape on this process? martha, i think with something like that, i think the impact was devastating. because of the way not only what he said but the way they presented it. we ve seen the access hollywood tape up till this point mainly in the abstract. ....
Already said that he will appeal this case. so how do you expect it to work from here with regard to all of that? i think the appeal has been heard by the verdict. i think former president trump would like to tell an appellate court is that the judge was steam rolled in to this conclusion. but they re obviously very discriminating. the verdict makes sense in the sense that they acquitted or they found him not liable on the rape charge. they found him guilty on the sexual abuse charges, the lesser ones. and the reason for that, i think, is that if you take the testimony of the three different women that testified in the trial, only e. jean carroll went so far to say that an actual rape occurred. i think that may have been a bridge too far or the the jury. they decided that they would go ....
Written in the wall street journal and glenn youngkin and he s hoping later in the year the current contenders sort of cancel each other out and there s room for someone with a different take on this. you see a potential for any of the other players to have a shot at this nomination? i know let me say it in 30 second. geraldo s hypothetical question by desantis to trump. you attack trump, you attack 75 million trump supporters. i guarantee, that s why these other martha: you don t think that happens on a debate stage? you don t think anybody brings it up? people will bring it up at their own peril as far as what response trump supporters will have. here s the key point. mar-a-largo raid, historic, two impeachment, historic. criminal charges, historic, a civil case and his numbers keep going up. ....
His point is the valid one. this is the the worst place that minute could choose to commit battery, in a very crowded area. that deposition turned out to be a nightmare because they were able, because he wasn t there, they used those. i think it really destroyed the defense in the end. martha: jonathan and andy, thank you very much. breaking news this afternoon. we have just reported the verdict in the e. jean carroll rape case. he was not found to be liable, the former president, donald trump, in that rape question in this case but he was found to be liable and the payment needs to be $2 million of battery, abuse and forcible touching and defamation. so that is where this has these nine jurors, anonymous jurors, that is the decision that they came down with. we re waiting for reaction from the former president. when we get that, we ll bring it ....