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Transcripts for MSNBC Velshi 20240604 14:33:00

Soliciting and then threatening senior state officials to alter the outcome of a presidential election does not bond with any who isn t concept of the scope of presidential power, neither the constitution nor applicable federal statutes unless the president with any authority to interfere with the administration of the georgia election. i would love your take on this. well, it is absolutely the case that these kinds of removals into federal court in criminal cases are comparatively rare. and it is certainly, as you said a few minutes ago, uncharted waters for the idea of a former president facing criminal charges first off at all. and second of, being in a situation where there are charges in state court that he s trying to move into federal court. a lot of people have different views on the likelihood that he is going to be a successful in that regard. but the only real effect is that it s going to change the nature of the jury pool and the judge who is hearing it. if the case is in ....

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Transcripts for MSNBC Velshi 20240604 14:01:00

With tucker carlson will air, and there s even the remote possibility that trump could change his mind in the last minute and participate in the debate after all. he technically has until tomorrow to decide. now, regardless of whether or not he shows up, trump s presence is going to be felt, since the issue of his electability in the face of multiple criminal indictments is one of the defining issues of this year s race. on the other hand, the one place where the former president is almost certain to be spotted this week is at the fulton county jail. trump and his 18 other codefendants in georgia s sweeping election interference case had been given until noon on friday to voluntarily surrender to authorities at the atlanta area jail, and sources have told nbc news that the former president will turn himself in right next week. headed by fulton county district attorney fani willis, the expansive racketeering case has already caused ripple effects across the political spectrum. trump s f ....

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Transcripts for MSNBC Velshi 20240604 14:11:00

Is not going to allow us to not impeach him. why? because he is an habitual offender. he cannot help himself. and if he is not held accountable, america will pay the price. and here we are 41, sorry, 91 counts later. and so, based on what i ve seen as an impeachment manager serving on the judiciary committee and the intelligence committee, and watching this unfold, i am not surprised by this moment. but what i do know is i do believe that the prosecutors in the case, as well as both fani willis and jack smith, and the probable cause, if you well that they need to bring these charges forward. one of the things happening this week is gonna be the first debate of the republican candidates. trump may or may not show up, probably not gonna show up, which makes the leading contender on the debate stage, ....

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Transcripts for MSNBC Velshi 20240604 14:10:00

Center. great to see you again. thank you for being with us this morning. i have been wanting to talk to you because you have been involved in how this has all gone down. and now, to see both of these charges, the federal charges, the jack smith case, and then the much bigger 98-page georgia conspiracy indictment, i want to get your sense of how this is all playing out, and whether you think these charges make sense given everything that you know about what happened on january 6th? well, good morning. it is good to be back with you. and, look, to even think about a former president of the united states facing four indictments, to be facing charges under the racketeering statute, that was unimaginable until donald trump and his enablers came along. i remember when we were complicating the first impeachment case, whether to take the vote to the floor or not, i remember saying, look, this president, donald trump, ....

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Transcripts for MSNBC Velshi 20240604 14:08:00

Third paragraph in which he says, the defendant had a right, like every american, to speak publicly about the election, and even to falsely claim that there had been outcome determinative fraud during the election and that he had won. it was also entitled to formally challenge the results of the election through lawful and appropriate means such as by seeking audits of the popular votes in states, or filing lawsuits challenging ballots and procedures. this is important because jack smith acknowledges this on the second page of the thing. you have the right to talk all you want. donald trump and his allies are arguing that these charges are attacks on his first amendment rights for free speech. not at all the case. in fact he goes further than that and says, jack smith says, trump can even lie about all these things. that s not a crime. there is a case in d.c. that has been adjudicated and pending trial by a judge. it is the case of this january 6th rioter. and in this case, the judge ....

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