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Transcripts For MSNBCW Andrea Mitchell Reports 20191204 17:00:00

Robbery thats burglary, ill get it right. And in this situation youve got somebody really caught in the middle of it, and that doesnt excuse the person from the consequences. Professors, weve talked about abuse of power and bribery. When we started we said we would also discuss obstruction of congress. So i would like to ask you some questions about obstruction of congress. Professor gerhardt, in your view, is there enough evidence here to charge President Trump with the high crime and misdemeanor of obstruction of congress . I think theres more than enough. As i mentioned in my statement, just to really underscore this, the third article of impeachment approved by the House Judiciary Committee against president nixon charged him with misconduct because he had failed to comply with four legislative subpoenas. Here it is far more than four that this president has failed to comply with. And he has ordered the Executive Branch as well not to cooperate with congress. Those together with a

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Transcripts For CNNW Inside Politics 20191204 17:00:00

Somebody really caught in the middle of it, and that doesnt excuse the person from the consequences. Professors, weve talked about abuse of power and bribery. When we started, we said we would also discuss Obstruction Of Congress. So id like to ask you some questions about Obstruction Of Congress. Professor gerhardt, in your view, is there enough evidence here to charge President Trump with the high crime and misdemeanor of Obstruction Of Congress . I think theres more than enough. As i mention in my statement, just to really underscore this, the third article of impeachment approved by the House Judiciary Committee against president nixon charged him with misconduct because he failed to comply with four legislative subpoenas. Here it is far more than four that this president has failed to comply with and hes ordered the Executive Branch as well not to cooperate the congress. Those together with a lot of other evidence suggests Obstruction Of Congress. Professor karlan, do you agree .

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Transcripts for CNN Inside Politics 20191204 17:45:00

does that track with the rule of law that we talked about? on obstruction i would encourage you to think about this. in nixon it did go to the courts and nixon lost. and that was the reason nixon resigned. he resigned a few days after the supreme court ruled against him in that critical case. but in that case, the court recognized there are executive privilege arguments that can be made. it didn t say you had no right coming to us, don t darken our doorstep again. it said we ve heard your arguments, we ve heard congress s arguments and you know what? you lose. turn over the material to congress. what that did for the judiciary is it gave this body legitimacy. it wasn t the rodino extreme

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Transcripts for MSNBC Andrea Mitchell Reports 20191204 17:45:00

you ve heard about impeachment? does that track with the rule of law that we talk about? so on obstruction i would encourage you to think about this. in nixon, it did go to the courts and nixon lost. and that was the reason nixon resigned. he resigned a few days after the supreme court ruled against him in that critical case. but in that case, the court recognized there are executive privilege arguments that can be made. it didn t say you had no right coming to us, don t darken our doorstep again. it said we ve heard your arguments, we ve heard congress arguments, and you know what, you lose, turn over the material to congress. what that did for the judiciary is it gave this body legitimacy. it wasn t the rodino extreme position that only you decide

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