You said the evidence supported it. you also said it would happen. a lot of people said the opposite, this would never happen. you were right about that. i said it to you actually in private, but i want to say it here. what do you feel today, and what should the public feel as i emphasize that this isn t about politics or your opinion of mr. trump s otherwise political tenure? no. i think what people have to focus on is just what you said, the evidence. the facts that are laid out in that indictment. in fact, i would invite everybody to look at that indictment and read it from cover to cover because when donald trump gets up and says that he s being railroaded, that this is for politics, the fact of the matter is there is real, hard evidence that he lied repeatedly about the election being stolen from him, and he tried to steal the election from joe biden. i mean that s what this case is about. it s about lying and stealing.
It s that simple. and i think you really have to read the entire indictment to understand that. and to also read the one in washington that s been filed because that dovetails with it neatly. and then to look at the other indictments too. i mean these are not inconsequential either. the one on classified documents, the facts are there. again, he lied. he stole the documents from the white house, and then he lied to the government to try and keep them and cover it up. and the same with the case in new york. the facts are there. people have to read them. this is a guy who cooked the books at the trump organization, not because he was just trying to do it for the heck of it. he was trying to cover up from the american people payoffs that he made to a porn star so that they wouldn t learn about it prior to the 2016 election. and these two other cases, the one in georgia and the one in d.c. relate to how he tried to
We have been covering all of this from our perspective, inside our country. but defendant trump s surrender is making headlines from canada, mexico, brazil, and italy. the mug shot of course front page news no matter how you slice it and leading many newscasts.newscasts. . [ speaking non-english ] many leaders of other nations have faced indictment, the mugshot process, the booking, or ultimate conviction for crimes in office. this is just a sampling. others served time and did rebound and hold public office again. this is exactly the debate we find ourselves in, which feels so novel to us, but actually, if
November of 2024. yeah. as you say, there is that direct link. jason johnson brought that up earlier in the broadcast because people are thinking quite practically. there have been times in other countries where the mainstream of both or multiple parties if that s the system tends to say that while one indictment isn t a whole story, it s definitely a grounds to at least pull back from someone and see how the case resolves. it is less common in healthy democracies to treat indictments as if they have no bearing on selecting a qualified person to be a lawmaker or chief executive. i say that by way of introduction to most of the republicans on the stage at the sort of undercard debate or some of them perhaps running to be vp, which may explain their answers, with regard to the very basic question about the effect of these indictments on donald trump if convicted as a nominee. take a look.
We ve turned this page in the indictment story. prosecutors allege trump was the rico leader, the tip of a criminal conspiracy to overturn the election. we know the defendants have surrendered along with trump for his booking and mug shot. now we don t know who s going to cooperate or turn. we just heard a lawyer talk about how that process could play out. but we do know one republican in georgia, sean still. he s not the first to pin it on the alleged rico leader. take georgia s republican party chair, david schaefer. he said the same thing. some legal experts think we are at the beginning of a process that could involve a lot more of that, whether it s accusing trump, testifying against him, or formally flipping. eyes are on the key defendants we ve been tracking, the lawyers who had direct contact with trump. it s one thing for an elector who s never met him, who s accused of elector fraud, and another thing for one of these people. remember, we ve also seen the video of clark and e