u.s. ever getting involved further, sending financial aid and artillery, boots on the ground on as well? how far could this go is the question? yeah, i m glad you brought that up. russia has to understand that it s not just a risk to their economy and to their global standing to invade ukraine. there will be pain for them and their people if they invade ukraine. the ukrainian people understand what russia has done by inviting crimea. they have been preparing for eight years to defend their homeland. the united states is making it clear we are going to support ukrainian people in such an effort to repel russia if russia invades. that s a painful risk. they need to understand that standing down is in their interest, going forward is not. we will leave it there. we will be monitoring the talks and check back with you for the latest updates. joel rubin, we appreciate your time. thank you.