yeah, safety, de-escalation to a point. there were a few of them you had a few that were angry and screaming and then you had others that i m here for you and this and that and the third so you just it came back to what you were saying, situational awareness. you want to de-escalate but at the same time you want to survive first. i keep thinking how remarkable it is they never fired their guns except for the one instance inside and what would have happened. officer eugene goodman on the three brothers, no sense podcast. and coming up, from bad to worse, a new investigation lawn pd by london police raises the stakes for an already embattled boris johnson. and president biden touted