The united states and europe and make up for it elsewhere. that is another piece of this long term puzzle that the biden administration i m sure is thinking about. you know ben, speaking of finding ways around it. one of the questions i get and i m sure you get, is about, does putin ever feel anything? does he ever get held responsible for what he has done? and one example tonight is that two employees of the kharkiv zoo, they stayed behind to care for the animals and were shot dead by russian soldiers. their bodies were found barricaded in a room. more innocent slaughter. we have seen in bucha, seen in kramatorsk, all across ukraine. genocide, war crimes, whatever you want to designate. does anyone ever pay for what is happening? i think that the big question that this will raise is, in the long run, are the people going to pay for this who are guilty of these war
Barricaded in a room. more innocent slaughter. we have seen in bucha, seen in kramatorsk, all across ukraine. genocide, war crimes, whatever you want to designate. does anyone ever pay for what is happening? i think that the big question that this will raise is, in the long run, are the people going to pay for this who are guilty of these war crimes? clearly, in the short term, vladimir putin is going to be sitting in the kremlin. and he enjoys support inside of russia. but this is why in the long run, yes. the reason it is so important to document these war crimes and send a message from putin on down to the people carrying out these orders. down to the people committing those war crimes, that those people will be pursued for the rest of their lives. if they leave russia, they will fall into the arms of international justice. it has to be a message that we will never relent in bringing those people to justice. what is at stake here, is whether or not in the 21st