on the joint comprehensive plan of action on iran s nuclear program. there is no u.s. strategy to push back against or be in conflict with china. laura: remember when kerry visited china earlier this month. senior officials would not even dig ify my dignify him with a meeting in person. it was on zoom after he went all the way over. there he returned from that trip apologizing more than before. there are other things as well. what is the process by which one trades off climate against human rights? well, life is always full of tough choices.