would see and we did see, frankly, when trump was in the white house. he is now trying to invoke executive privilege, which is really up to the sitting president. and i realize you will address that in a second. but we don t know how that is going to work. in terms of trump s world, they want to treat it as illegitimate. this is a way of doing it. but we are heading into yet another, in the trump era, unprecedented moment of potentially blowing off subpoenas and treating them as if they re not real. we will see what democrats do in response. i want to cover both of those now counselor norm eisen. through the miracle of television, he can hear me now. as maggie noted, donald trump isn t president i didmore. and steve bannon wasn t even a government employee at the time in question. thank you for having me. hi, maggie. there is some hangover executive