These intermittent at times enormous convoys is part of a huge flow of civilians around ukraine. remember also, too, those emerging out of mariupol azovstal. the russian government for what it s worth, the ministry defense said tomorrow, the day after that, there will be another window for civilians to get out of the steel plant where ukraine is now saying the russians are not having success, but it does appear a heavy onslaught has begun by the russian military, whether that will indeed cease over the days ahead to allow civilians out, russia says it acts by humane principles, almost absurd, given the damage it s done to almost every civilian area of mariupol, but hopes, i think, diminishing slowly given the ferocity of russia s onslaught today and the loss of communications experienced at one point during today with those inside. jake. nick paton walsh doing incredible reporting for us in ukraine. thank you so much. joining us to discuss, a