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Transcripts for CNN Fareed Zakaria GPS 20240604 17:16:00

Call for your free publisher kit today! the west arms to ukraine have undoubtedly boosted the country s defense but what is the west s long game to secure peace in ukraine and in europe? what should it be? joining me now, david miliband, president and ceo of the international rescue committee, former foreign minister of britain, anne-marie slaughter and kishore mahbubani from the national organization of singapore and longtime former diplomat. ann-marie, what should the west s long-term game be here? the first half of that game has to be simply stop the fighting. we re going to see the complete destruction of eastern and southern ukraine. if you look at what happened in 2014 when they took over part of eastern ukraine and crimea, it can just go forever, the fighting. we have to stop the fighting. second, however, we need a geopolitical configuration that is not russia and china, europep the united states and the rest of the world. if you look at what happened with the human rights

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Transcripts for CNN Fareed Zakaria GPS 20240604 14:17:00

Can just go forever, the fighting. we have to stop the fighting. second, however, we need a geopolitical configuration that is not russia and china, europep the united states and the rest of the world. if you look at what happened with the human rights vote, you saw india, brazil, mexico, south africa, egypt, indonesia all abstained. that is not a good geopolitical configuration. so the united states actually wants not to isolate russia and push it closer to china for the long term. and then longest of all, the united states needs to think about what is a european security architecture that makes europe actually whole and free and safe? i don t think we get there with putin in power. but putin s not going to be in power forever and we actually have to think about the next couple of decades where we can protect ukraine but russia is one thing integrated into europe. but he s in his late 60s, david miliband. he s not going anywhere any time soon or giving up any time soon.

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