Name. they may have some real idea of where this person might be headed and may be headed there. they don t want to give anything away. one other point i wanted to make, trace, that is the first day of school for the school district there. the chapel hill carboro city schools. they have gone in to secure mode. it s a lockdown, nobody allowed on to the school campuses, off of the school campuses. instruction we re told is continuing. boy, what a day to go back to school for all of those kids in the chapel hill carboro school district. it is chaotic. you know, if we had video cameras all over the town, police are probably likely in the know of who this person is on the right-hand side of the screen and very likely to be at that person s house looking for ed, looking for information as we kind of talk about this. i want to bring in phil holloway. this is interesting to me, phil. if you look at the scene here, he s a criminal defense