just one individual story, possibly followed by some other individual stories. gwen keyes fleming, externally helpful tonight and enlightening for me in particular to my understanding of where this stands and why district attorney willis is approaching it the way she is. thank you very much for your guidance. really appreciated. thank you for having me. thank you. and joining our discussion now, is democratic he served as a house impeachment manager in the second impeachment trial of donald trump. he is a member of the house intelligence committee and judiciary committee. and congressman swalwell, that second impeachment trial, basically, covered the same ground that the january six committee is trying to cover now. but you were focused on one individual. you were focused only on donald trump. that was very clear. it seemed like you had all the elected into needed. the majority of the senate agreed with you. but not enough to actually remove him from office. the committee seems t
story about what happened leading up to january 2nd and after. the whole story instead of just one individual story, possibly followed by some other individual stories. gwen keyes fleming, externally helpful tonight and enlightening for me in particular to my understanding of where this stands and why district attorney willis is approaching it the way she is. thank you very much for your guidance. really appreciated. thank you for having me. thank you. and joining our discussion now, is democratic he served as a house impeachment manager in the second impeachment trial of donald trump. he is a member of the house
pursue that testimony? hard to get because they would fight, apparently, any kind of subpoenas. well, the committee is certainly open to it and quite welcome to hear it. but as joyce vance points out, if anything that they had to say was favorable to the president, they d be rushing to the hill to offer that testimony. so i think chairman schiff is right to say that we can draw negative inferences from their refusal to show up. and the fact that bolton would much rather earn 2 million bucks and tell his story in a book that he s going to be selling than to the congress and the american people says it all. the fact is that they can testify, but there s no good reason for the intelligence committee to hold things back while they fight subpoenas in the courts new york ci. no matter how quickly the courts rule, it will take time. there s no reason to hold it up.
do a howard baker, that would be one thing. but they weren t. they were going down there to rub elbows with this guy and let him lobby them. i find it astoundingly bad judgment, frankly. and let s take a look at what congresswoman will herd said today because he s the only republican intelligence committee who doesn t go on the attack. he tries to present himself as someone who is carefully evaluating the evidence. let s listen to what he said. an impeachable offense should be compelling, overwhelmingly clear, and unambiguous, and it s not something to be rushed or taken lightly. i have not heard evidence proving the president committe s bribery or extortion. i also reject the notion holding this view means supporting all the foreign policy choices we have been hearing about over these last few weeks. paul, your reaction to that. very disappointing. i think that if the congressman had been listening closely, he would have, in fact, heard
lawrence tribe, harvard law professor. he s a professor of constitutional law and coauthor of to end a presidency: the power of impeachment. professor tribe, thank you very much for joining us tonight. glad to be here. has the intelligence committee made a case, have they established evidence for an article of impeachment? i think the answer is clearly yes, they have made it very clear in the evidence that we have heard from firsthand witnesses like mr. holmes who actually heard the president s voice, and in the president s words himself from the read out from the call, that the president was engaged in bribery, extortion, the usurpation of congress s power of the purse, and abuse of his office, a violation of his oath. these are all impeachable offenses. and then on top of that, it s very clear that the president s unprecedented erection of a stone wall in which he directs