oh, yeah, i would hope so. in fact, i would love to get that information myself. on friday evening this past friday evening i returned from texas, allen, texas, negotiators out in the allen, texas area. i would love to have the information to review to teach investigators the lessons learned. maybe things that we didn t like or they didn t like as well and just use that it as a teaching tool. arthel: absolutely. you don t know how the suspect in the case died? do you have that information by any chance? don t know the exact details. it sounds like it was possible intervention, they went in and either he killed himself or the team arthel: those details will come out. retired nypd hostage negotiator