available there to mitigate any of the violence very. of course we all hope for that outcome that you are painting the picture for us there, danny, i do ask you while the swat team negotiators are talking to this guy who think they re going to try to isolate him, what are they saying to them and what is their backup plan in the process to make sure no one gets hurt? we do not know that. i m not so sure with the layout is in there. what they will do is they will try to gradually decrease the permit or increase the perimeter so he has less and less movement. they ll have hostage negotiators and dallas in the fbi and i guarantee the hostage division at quantico is called into this. they are monitoring the