this. beyond all of the politics, and the protests, it s just begum conventional wisdom that schools being closed hurts kids mental health. we just all accepted the view of, people like liberal columnist who wrote this week, the damage to a generation of children social development and educational attainment, will be a recovery-able. damage from school closures, that is. breathless news headlines keep telling us, again and again, that kids being home, during the pandemic, has harm their mental health. so, they have to go back to school, no matter the covid threat. is that true? when ex guest, an expert s mental health and suicide. he works with the data. he saying something quite different from the conventional wisdom. joining me now, dr. tyler black. clinical assistant at the university of british columbia. thank you so much for joining me, this evening. you said, recently, something most people don t say. quote, the mental health impacts of the virus and, his consequences includi