Have been taken, he being george zimmerman, i to the hospital gin how he appeared in the pictures that we saw? he was walking and talking. i doubt it. okay. you re a tough la lady. you know, doctor, this case will not depend on the forensics. it really will depend on the state of mind of george zimmerman and that appears to be what you re saying, that even your science isn t objective enough or is not capable of saying what really happen. no. we can give, you know, what s reasonable, what we can tell. like certainly he could have moved his arms in that probably minute to two minutes. even though the bullet wound went through the chest, the heart? right. we have we know that people can walk and run with that, but it s variable. people can collapse suddenly and we ve had other instances where they re running a half a block away, so it s variable.