cal or dental procedures. i m still going for my best. and for eliquis. ask your doctor about eliquis. welcome to kasie d.c. i m kasie hunt. we are live from washington every sunday. tonight, spring cleaning in the trump administration. rex tillerson gone. andrew mccabe, gone. is the special counsel far behind him? and what about other key members of the trump administration? senator chris van haul enjoins me live to talk about what all of this means as the foreign policy obstacles mount for the united states. plus, democrats pull off a serious upset in trump country. new polling just out today shows why pennsylvania could be just
the beginning. but we start with a restive weekend in the white house. that is an understatement. andrew mccabe fired hours short of his retirement, and he kept his receipts. reportedly handing over notes on the president to the special counsel. the special counsel subpoenaed the trump organization as the president s lawyer wondered aloud whether i
easi easily. i completely agree on the delassification like that. the sources and that set a new precedent. it will be different for the investigation, turning over materials to congress. you turned over thousands of pages, in the middle of the investigation, now that it is closed you can t tell me you have any reason to hang on to that similar information. so good news and bad news for you. we re not going anywhere. that s the bad news, the good news is it is your table now. well, is that what happens? 30 seconds, now i m supposed to throw mtp daily. all right, so this is what
they call weird vamping in this business. a better handover in person. we should be doing it more often. we were told that at 5:00 if something was going to happen that right now, and this is what it says in the relevant regulation that if if is happening right now it is happening right now. there is a report of a brief notification with a outline of the reasons for him turning in the actions. so
To the point about hillary clinton s emails scandal, he is on this tape acknowledging that he has documents that he shouldn t, he is joking about the hillary clinton case. how does that play with a jury? i want to make one point here that i think is being missed a little bit, at least from my perspective. i do not think in the tape that he said he had documents he should not have had. he said that clearly he had documents that were classified, it could have classified them he said they were secret. right, in their theory of defense as i understand it, remember that they believe that, under the presidential records act, he had the exclusive rights of determining which documents were personal and which were presidential. irrespective of whether the document was classified. so if you follow that theory of defense, one of the problems they have to prove under the statute that he is charged with is it a person unauthorized to have the document. if they believe, and they think that t
Something that will just be accepted by a judge because it has not been tested. of course, it has not been tested. i will tell you one thing to keep your eye on all times is the third prong, the willful-ness prong. in the statute, willful-ness means as it does broadly in other statutes, it means that the person acted knowing that here she did something the law prohibited. if you follow that series through, and he believed he had to write to these documents, he s entitled to a jury charge that the government has to prove that he understood or believed that he did something law prohibited. but president trump, from what we are hearing so far, that was not the case. they are at least entitled to that defense. we will see. you are right that is entitled to the defiant, but it s complicated by the fact that he says that they are secret, i did not declassify them when i could have. david, we have you on because you understand the mind of a defense lawyer and you also understand trump so
Clearance. to counter general mark mullens claim that trump was itching to attack iran. speaking of clearance, in that clip, he asked his aide to hand him papers. it s unclear who exactly did and whether that person had a security clearance either. they presented me this. they presented me this. this was him. this was the defensive department. it is yet another instance in the type of trump references a document and the first time that he hints at its sensitivity. we looked at some. this was him. this wasn t done by me. also, it s pages long. let s see here. isn t that amazing. this totally wins my case, you know. except