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Australia or in canada or even in the us, where skilled people are actually attracted by those states. but this is not happening in germany. it has never happened in the last 20 years. but look at the numbers and look at the experts who analyse the numbers. herbert brucker, head of migration and integration research at humboldt university in berlin, says, quote, without immigration, the potential number of workers in germany would decline by 40% by 2060. well, let s resolve the problems of 2060 in 2050. this is so long ago, it s beyond political planning today. ah, so you mean short term opportunism trumps the strategic interest of your country, does it? well, you can always put it ironically, but that s not what i said. i said this is, from a political perspective, so far away. currently, we have completely different problems, and those people coming in are not skilled labours, not at all. well, unskilled labours, we need too to some extent. that s fine. and if those people can be

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