respect their life, accidentally naming them is not going to show that to the jury. that said, i m also worried about the fact that someone who is a survivor of sex abuse might see that someone was outed in open court and add that to the tally of things that they re worried about when they re debating coming forward as a survivor. adam, the prosecution has argued that maxwell was epstein s enabler while the defense claims that she has now become a scapegoat for his crimes. i ve heard the phrase epstein by proxy for ghislaine maxwell. at this time and after everything you ve seen during this trial, which side do you believe has done a better job at making its case? well, we have two former pilots for jeffrey epstein calling her his number two. they both used that exact phrase. jeffrey epstein s former house manager said that she described herself as the lady of the house. and so we have multiple witnesses describing her as very high up.
they ll even pair you with an expert bookkeeper like me, who knows your business. knows your business! expert bookkeepers who understand your business. intuit quickbooks live bookkeeping. closing arguments begin tomorrow in the trial of ghislaine maxwell. maxwell is accused of helping jeffrey epstein groom and abuse underage girls. this past friday, maxwell declined to take the stand, telling the judge, quote, your honor, the government has not proved its case beyond a reasonable doubt, and so there is no reason for me to testify. joining me now, adam class feld, the managing editor of law and crime, and vice news reporter carter sherman. adam, i want to start with you. the defense was planning to call almost three dozen witnesses. why do you think such a smaller number of witnesses ended up taking the stand in the defense of ghislaine maxwell? well, simply because they lost a number of important
that would connect with this story and it would resonate and help them, then that, for lack of a better word, that trumped my fear. as we begin a new hour, joe manchin s holiday surprise. the west virginia senator putting a nail in the coffin of build back better. how his party is reacting to the sudden reversal. plus breaking news. senator elizabeth warren announces she has covid-19, one of countless breakthrough cases we are now seeing in this new wave across the united states. also tonight, donald trump s niece, mary trump, on the record about the former president s legal woes and his ongoing refusal to release his tax returns. and tomorrow, closing arguments will begin in the ghislaine maxwell trial. will the jury see her as an enabler of jeffrey epstein or a pawn of his? this is american voices.
somebody with all those benefits get to be where she is now, charged with these unspeakable allegations? how would somebody like her be in a position that she s now charged with helping jeffrey epstein groom and sexually abuse underage women? you know, i think it s the image of a very accomplished, privileged woman doing this to other woman, it s something that is very difficult to comprehend. and we all want answers. absolutely. and in a recent rolling stone article, you note that high society types are bracing for this trial. what s driving that? fear that they ll be implicated if epstein s little black book is introduced as evidence? what do you think? well, i know from my reporting and we all know it from the last two years, right,