This looks like the very top of the edge of this frontline, and you can see that on the ground very intensely we heard a lot of shelling, we heard a lot of engagement back and forth. and from what we heard today, that has intensified. sandra: and charles, to your point about just how difficult it is to get the aid to those front lines and to the heart areas there, this is obviously some the are directly engaged in. you seen how difficult and dangerous the journey is, can you tell us a little bit more about what you ve experienced along the journey? when you go into kharkiv what you see is just road after road where things are mixed from completely normal and some pockets where people seem to be going about their lives, and then just down the street you will see a complete housing block that is devastated right next to one that isn t. we see people who are aligned up for food from their food shortages and there. we saw people who gather in schools, basements to be protected against