the defense on the other hand seems to be using the very famous people for a different purpose. they are talking about how important jeffrey epstein was in a different way. they call him a modern james bond. vicky ward, the podcast is chasing ghislaine. the substack is vicky ward vekts that s all in for this week. rachel maddow starts right now. thank you chris, much spreadsheeted opinion thanks for joining thus hour we start tonight with exclusive reporting on a head-turning development that you have not heard about anywhere else but relates to the january 6th investigation. now, as we ve been covering this week, part of the drama in the january 6th investigation right now has surrounded a former trump justice department official named jeffrey clark. jeff clark is the person with whom president trump apparently cooked up a scheme by which the justice department would try to