former new jersey governor chris christie. at the top of that list, it s florida governor ron desantis, the far-right culture warrior against abortion rights, the lgbt community, and disney. one of his states largest employers. desantis has said his term as governor will serve as a, quote, blueprint in his quest to remake america and florida s image. that would be more impressive if you were not losing an all out war with a cartoon mouse, but more on that later. donald trump may be a disgrace to twice impeached criminally indicted former president who fermented insurrection, and was recently found liable for sexual abuse and defamation, and is currently the subject of several federal and state investigations. but a new harvard capitalist poll shows none of that has hurt his standing with the republican base. joining me now, david jolly, the former republican congressman from florida who left the party in 2018, and michael steele, former chairman of the rnc, msnbc political an