See beginning right after the 2018 midterms. Dan, to be continued. Please come back. That does it for us. We are out of time. Heres ali and stephanie for velshi ruhle. Thank you. Have a good rest of the afternoon. Good afternoon to you. Im ali velshi. Im stephanie ruhle. Its wednesday, october 3rd. Lets get starter. 36 years ago this happened. I had one beer. Right . I had one beer. Well, you think it was nope. It was one beer. Oh good. How did you get home . I dont remember. How did you get there . I dont remember. Wheres the place . I dont remember. How many years ago was it . I dont know. I dont know. I dont know. What neighborhood was in . I dont know. Wheres the house . I dont know. Upstairs, down stairs. Where was it . I dont know. I had one beer. A mans life is in tatters. A mans life is shattered. His wife is shatters. His daughters who are beautiful, incredible, young kids, they destroy people. They want to destroy people. These are really evil people. Think of your son. Think
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well, it has to be after hours, has to be on their own time. they cannot use their official position to do tmpit. he cannot talk about his position as adviser to the president. and, you know, frankly, it s difficult. usually what happens in these cases is the person leaves the government service and goes over to the campaign. and that is normally what you re supposed to do. but, you know, trump has shown already that he s not going to follow any of the normal rules. and, in fact, he also has found we have seen with kelly ann conway found in violation of the hatch act and still has a job he s not going to take the recommendations of the people who investigate somebody for the hatch act violation. so is it even worthy of an investigation if the outcome is the same, regardless of the findings? absolutely. you know, we cannot let trump s disregard for the law or the people working for him, disregard for the law. kellyanne conway, tell me when they sentence me to jail. we can t let
investigate whether kushner is in violation of the hatch act. citing a new york times report that kushner has been involved in fund-raising for trump s 2020 re-election campaign. larry noble is here, federal counsel for the election commission. larry, what is legal and what isn t legal when it comes to someone in kushner s position? right. well, the hatch act is an 80-year-old statute that prohibits federal employees, except for the president and vice president, from doing political activity on government time or using government resources for doing political activity. so if jared kushner is helping the campaign now, which he apparently is, and wants to of some control over the fund-raising of the campaign, and doing it on government time, may be in violation of the hatch act, a serious violation. so this is something that needs to be looked at. he can t just run the campaign from his office in the white house. so it is okay for someone in the white house to be involved in campai