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Upgrade is, it is changing as the phones do. I find it impossible to believe that apple is not going to continue to evolve form factor s to stay competitive with everybody else, so it is saying and acknowledging what we already know which is the cycle of the big changes in the phone platform is coming to a close. Mike. You know, we had steve mi melonovich said not to the expect a big upgrate for the 7, but more on the 8, and so you need to refine what you mean by big upgrade. Yes, in the steve jobs era, they said they would not move from the different sizes of the phone, but they did that, so it is hard to imagine so many improvements on the cell phone, and i have had it for two years, and i dont think that i will get a new one, and the big thing that everybody wants a lot of times is the battery, and the better battery life, and this is sort of the bound by the laws of physics, so unless apple can make those breakthroughs, we wont see anything that big. And it is like, what else do i

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