because two of the stars stand for nonwhite states, alaska and hawaii. i do not salute that flag and i stand for my own flag which is the banner of the white race. with me today, chris picciolini, 19 years old, director of the illinois chapter of the northern hammer skinheads. well, i believe we re warriors today and we re fighting for a great cause, which is the white race. it s painful to admit, but that s me. 22 years ago. today i see the world very differently. joining us now, christian picciolini, cofounder of life after hate. hello, this is christian, tell me what s going on, man. for more than a decade i ve made it my mission to help people disengage from hate groups before they destroy their lives or the lives of others. does he ever talk about like being violent? has he ever talked about using weapons? there s a resistance to work with somebody who was a violent white supremacist. but i ve helped over 100 people