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Transcripts For MSNBC Dateline 20240706

my heart breaks. casinos, charisma, connections. he was mr. big. he was very dark flamboyant. extremely charming. his murder was big to. a car explosion at a posh resort, somebody wanted to make a statement. who would want him dead? or who wouldn t? a string of angry investors, even whispers about the mob. everybody went, oh, this is mob connected. so why would police focus on her, a beautiful socialite, ex-wife number two? she was very intoxicating. i think she was cold and calculating. maybe her former husband was worth more dead than alive. it s easy to blame the rich, beautiful woman. she s the person everyone loves to hate. but she is completely innocent. or maybe it was someone else entirely. he is obsessed with gary triano, obsessed with him. it s a case we investigated for more than five years. now a stunning new end. we are going back up under a rollercoaster. spend a little time in tucson, arizona and here, in the shadows of the majes

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Transcripts For MSNBC Dateline 20240707

everybody went, oh, this is mob connected. so why would police focus on her, a beautiful socialite, ex-wife number two? it was very intoxicating. i think she was cold and calculating. maybe her former husband was worth more dead than alive. it s easy to blame the rich, beautiful woman. the person everyone loves to hate. but she is completely innocent. or maybe it was someone else entirely. he is obsessed with gary triano, obsessed with him. it s a case we investigated for more than five years. now a stunning new in. we are going back up under a rollercoaster. spend a little time in tucson arizona and here, in the shadows of the majestic saguaros you will find a thriving metropolis of 1 million people, with a surprising small town feel. it s the kind of place where everyone seems to know everyone. and if you ask anyone from tucson where they were on november 1st, 1996, they will tell you it was the day of a murder. so dramatic, so horrific they will never f

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 06:46:00

Any insight that you can give us on those? he had so many enemies, you know? to st. john, nothing stood out about those interviews, until he asked pam about ron young. something has come up that i want to ask you about. it is is your relationship with ron young. i don t really have a relationship with ron young. tell me what it is. he s a guy from aspen. god, how does his name come up? st. john felt he might have thrown pam off our game. we are trying to do our best on this. wow, he s a guy from aspen that did some financial stuff for me. are you aware that there s an arrest warrant out for him? no. and what was the last time you had any dealings with him?

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 08:47:00

he s a guy from aspen. god, how does his name come up? reporter: st. john felt he might have thrown pam off our game. we are trying to do our best on this. wow, he s a guy from aspen that did some financial stuff for me. are you aware of an arrest warrant out for him? no. and what was the last time you had dealings with him? well, it s been a long time. since he was doing work for me. reporter: and pam denied ever having a romantic relationship with ron. and you are never were boyfriend girlfriend? never had an affair? no, no. in my opinion, she minimized it. she s saying, he s just the person that did some work for me, i didn t see him in months. now the guy was involved? no. not a guy who i refused to sign the complaint down with

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 06:46:00

gary is the one that took this out, he also insisted it was in my name. reporter: they discussed two out there could be angry at gary. gary had so many business dealings. and the insight that you can give us on those? he had so many enemies, you know? four key st. john, nothing stood out about those interviews, until he asked pam about ron young. something has come up that i want to ask you about. it is is your relationship with ron young. i don t really have a relationship with ron young. tell me what it is. he s a guy from aspen. god, how does his name come up? reporter: st. john felt he might have thrown pam off our game. we are trying to do our best on this. wow, he s a guy from aspen that did some financial stuff for me. are you aware of an arrest warrant out for him? no. and what was the last time you had dealings with him? well, it s been a long time.

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