And now they re doing the same thing. that was the goal all along and they re fighting it if very well. defend what they have to be smart with counterattacks and continue to push russia back. we will see the ukrainians being more successful with counterattacks as they are able to get these weapon systems. therea re so many refugees in european countries at the moment along the border of ukraine. theyjust want to go home. they just want peace. they don t want war. how long to think their wait is going to be? in your experience of conflict, is this going to be like guerrilla warfare that just goes on with street fighting for months if not years or is there an endgame coming? no, i mean, ukraine will not concede territory. that will be guerrilla territory until the russians give up that territory or the ukrainians counterattack and are able to take it back.
Will not concede territory. - will not concede territory. that will be guerrilla territory until the russians give up that territory or the ukrainians counterattack and are able to take it back. it is going to be a long fight and the war probably won t go on as long as the decade but in the donbas that lasted eight years and ukraine did not get it back so unfortunately it will last longer than most people think. are great to talk to you. you for giving the time to the bbc. thank you. in afghanistan, the taliban have ordered women to cover their faces with a veil when in public, warning that if they fail to do so, their male relatives could be jailed for three days. women s rights activists have reacted with dismay. 0ur afghanistan correspondent, secunder kermani, sent this report from kabul.