people watching to see about national implications, too, mark. this has turned into a national contest both on the republican and democratic side where terry mcauliffe is talking about issues like abortion, vaccine mandates. glenn youngkin has leaned into education, more with a nationalized focus than the nuts and bolts of education policy that a governor once had. hallie, the first governor s race in virginia i covered in d.c. in 2005 was tim kaine versus kilgore, which was not much of a race like we have 16 years later. it tells us where politics have come not only in senate and house races, but also a guber na gubernatorial process in