ground rods in afghanistan if we were just going to cede it back to the taliban. i m a believer in it doesn t matter how we got there, but we are here. iraq is aware we shouldn t have gotten into but we were there. the rules and to the battlefield of talking about [laughter] they get reelected, they come in, you can t just drag us right out of here and one day. it would have collapsed everything. pete: a perfect segue. on the other side of the break and later on the program, we ll talk about the military, we ll talk about rules of engagement, what it s like to be a warrior when politicians get involved. also if you love this conversation, if you want more of it, you can always go to foxnation.com. we will have longer, some outtakes if you think this is good, wait for the outtakes and the additional clips. stick with us. we have more to come here on the fox news channel.