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As we speak, Search And Rescue workers trying to find 1,300 people still unaccounted for. The governor saying the vast majority of victims that have already been found were burned so badly theyll have to be identified through dna. The latest on the search and the president s plan to head to hawaii coming up. And the really sick trend of Swatting Synagogue Ss fueling new fears among jewish congregations. Threatening calls are made during services being live streamed so the suspects can watch crimes unfold at realtime. All this with antisemitic incidents at their highest level in decades. But we start with donald trump, legally bound to surrender to authorities at the Fulton County jail in atlanta sometime between now and next friday at noon. With that jail open 24 7, the how and particularly when are still up to ....
Officers in trying to overturn the election. one of the things, obviously, greg, that this would take off the table if it got moved to federal court is cameras in the courtroom, right? and i know that as we were in the lead up to this there was a lot of conversation about that. as you ve been hearing over the last couple of days any kind of talk about the possibility of a donald trump and potentially anyone else s trial being televised, have you heard anything to indicate that that might get pulled, or is that the presumption, the overwhelming presumption that it would happen? yeah, that s the presumption that if it was removed to federal court, which is still a very open question, right? legal experts as we just heard say it s still uncharted territory in a sense, right? if it does get pulled to federal court, we to expect it not to be televised, although there will be a big push maybe even from donald trump s campaign, who knows, to get cameras in the courtroom because we know th ....
Of problems. the fulton county sheriff said they re going to treat him like any other defendant, all signs point to fingerprinting and possibly a mug shot. but he would, i assume, greg, he would be in and out really quickly? very quickly, yeah. we do not they d have to move, dozens, maybe hundreds of prisoners, inmates just to accommodate him in a cell. i don t think he s going to spend much more than a few minutes there. all right, carol, there s a lot going on legally. we saw a move by mark meadows who filed to have his case moved out of state court to federal court. rudy giuliani made the same case on television last night. let me play that. the case should be immediately removed to the federal court under a statute i really doubt she thought about. i don t know if she thinks of it, and that would be 28 united states code section 1442, paren a. which says that any case ....
Greg blue steen, an msnbc political contributor, and carol lam is a former federal prosecutor and an msnbc legal analyst. so vaughn, what s the latest from trump world? do we have any insight into the discussions about trump s next move, or as everyone s waiting to hear what the timing of his surrender might be. right, we know there are deliberations that were continuing overnight into exactly when he will come down here to georgia. we know that he will be going to a fundraiser in nashville tomorrow, so potentially thursday or friday are still possibilities, though we have seen in past obviously a great amount of protocol and preparation made ahead of his actual movements for his arraignments, and i think that s an important point here is that in georgia he will not only have to surrender here at the fulton county jail, but he will also have to take part in an arraignment, and those events could take happen at two ....
Reliant on the legal stipulations that must be met here over the course of the next anyone days as well. greg, what else can you tell us about how this will all unfold at the jail and frankly, about the jail itself? yeah, well, donald trump can waiver his first court appearance, but he cannot waive the surrender as vaughn said. he is going to have to show up at the fulton county jail between now and next friday at noon. my hunch is he s not going to go under the cover of night, and i know you mentioned at the top of the show there s a chance he could do it on the day next wednesday, and that s what the political minds here in georgia are all talking about. the possibility that he could do counterprogramming to the debate. the fulton county jail is not a place you d wish upon even one of your worst enemies. it is full of there s been civil rights complaints. there s been a legal settlement involving someone who recently died there involving a bedbug infestation. it is not a place ....