ukraine, i am so worried about what is happening, not only to my friends but to the greater ukrainian population. it is horrifying, horrifying to watch, at the end of the day, they re fighting for their country, this is an existential crisis. they are fighting for the country, they re fighting for their families, they re fighting for their freedom, and it s up to them to make that decision, as to how much further they want to go. in mariupol, and other parts of ukraine, and how they move forward. i don t think that s something that we in the west should be dictating. we are not the ones who are fighting. but surely, we would have a say in lifting off the sanctions that we ve imposed on russia. do you have a sense of what that would require for us to do that? we know this point, sanctions, as you know, are very hard to lift, under any circumstances. and given, frankly
you ve seen in ukraine during this invasion, and how does this situation and? people have made the difference between the attempt to save ukrainian lives, to save ukraine by ending this war and kind of reaching some kind of political or diplomatic framework. or, what is happening now, which is bogging russia down in this war, and basically bleeding russia out in ukraine, even if it is still able to carry out the destruction that it is doing inside that country. well, i don t think that those are major reasonable positions to hurled in the united states, but it is in our call to make, it s up to the ukrainian people, the cranial leadership to make that decision, as to what they want to do. i mean, i have many friends in ukraine, i am so worried about what is happening, not only to my friends but to the greater ukrainian population. it is horrifying, horrifying to watch, at the end of the day, they re fighting for their