hi, nicole, thanks a lot. special counsel jack smith is calling mike pence s bluff, in their view, and trying to force him under oath in a grand jury. more on that later. plus, the top investigator for the january 6th committee is speaking out on that big new york times story that was making waves. you might have seen it. he s here. he make his beat debut later in the hour. top story now is how republicans are using their power in the house. we saw kevin mccarthy clash with those hardliners, and during those clashes when he had to get all the votes on the house floor, he promised all kinds of concessions, including promoting what was then his most ardent foe to a committee to look into fbi investigations and attacking the fbi and doj. and that itself is a shift in washington s power dynamics. this is a story i m about to tell you. for decades, members in both parties lobbied to get on committees like appropriations, controlling money. some sought prestigious assignmen
we will help get you the best result possible. call one eight hundred, eight million we were just talking to a jan 6th investigator from the committee about aspects of that probe. he mentioned there s things we couldn t get into like internal deliberations, and that s congress. the rules are stricter for grand juries, which is why there s been a lot of discussion of the forewoman of a georgia grand jury who s been speaking out about aspects of that probe, which is totally open. we don t know whether further indictments will come from it or what. the judge has spoken out about this criticism. the judge says, they re not prohibited from talking about witnesses or prosecutors. nor are they prohibited of talking about the fruit of their deliberations, which would be the final report.
in other words, in this case you have some people saying that even when it s not the norm, that doesn t mean that it actually violates the rules. another way to say that is many people may have strayed so far from the line that we re less accustomed to hearing this stuff. juror did say the other jurors recommended criminal charges. the trump legal team says everything s now been poisoned. trump as lawyers haven t filed motions on this. i m joined by david kelly, former attorney for the famed southern district of new york, my former boss, and a man who know his way around a few grand juries. welcome, david. good evening. how are you, ari? i m good. i want to get your reaction to whether you see further action out of georgia. but first on this issue, which has been kicked around so much, i m curious your response to how we put it here, that most people didn t get this close to the line. i mean, you tell me if you can
we ll repost, retweet, whatever, because it s good to know you keep such a good relationship with your puppet. oh, yeah. little billy and i are doing really well. amazing. a little light amidst the darkness. thank you michael steele. what s coming up, mike pence in the hot seat. we ll explain. what a judge is saying now about how many people have been musing about, what does it mean when a grand jury speaks out like this as we saw in georgia? is it good weird, bad weird, not matter? does it break rules? i have an update that s interesting. live guest, the top investigator of the that january 6th committee makes his the beat debut. that s coming up. that s coming up ns. this painful, blistering rash can disrupt your life for weeks. a pain so intense, you could miss out on family time.
think of a grand jury foreperson talking ate out like this. that s uncommon. that doesn t mean a line was crossed. your thoughts. go ahead. a line was not crossed. it s unfortunate a grand jury should speak out. grand jury secrecy rules are important and they need to be abided by anybody who steps foot into the that grand jury room. they crossed the line in so far as she may have disclosed things she may not have, but without any prejudice towards the people who are subject of the investigation, particularly in this case, because in georgia, the special grand jury had nothing to do with the charges. they make recommendations. but at the end of the day it s going to be a separate grand jury filtered by the prosecutors to what gets charged and what does not get charged, so i think let me jump in. you re making a precise legal point that nick akerman set on our air as well, and i think it s something most people don t realize, because wild claim here, but most people are not