that s what mccarthy stopped negotiating. normally the parties are in charge of disciplining their own folks and it s sort of been taken out of our hands. i don t know that kevin would have taken mr. gosar off. i know he called him and had him apologize and had him remove the video that s in question and he may have gone down this path of removing him off one or both committees, i don t know, but when the democrat leadership said, hey, we re just going to do it, that s when kevin just backed off. our own party should be in charge of disciplining our members and kevin has signaled his willingness to do it, but then he s trumped, so to speak, by speaker pelosi and steny hoyer. representative bacon, good to talk to you. you ve got a lot of policy issues that i think you and i would like to continue to discuss so i invite you back to have discussions. sometimes we can talk politics and approximately see. i always enjoy interviewing