To provide effective testimony against the people who you believe are most responsible for these crimes. and i am sure that is sort of playing in the environment. i want to turn back to tom foreman at the magic wall. because, as you know, mark meadows is really fighting hard to get his case out of state court, brought to federal court. of course, that does not mean that he won t be charged on state charges. that will still hold. it will be in federal court and successful but he is not allowing there either. he has been joined now by two other defendants in his pursuit. what can you tell us? i can tell you that mark meadows and jeffrey clark, who worked at the doj, both are taking the stance of saying, look, we are federal people. we were serving the president in that role. and therefore, this does not belong in a state court. it had nothing to do with happened in the state. david shafer, you mentioned him a moment ago. former gop georgia chairman he is trying to make the same
What can you tell us? mark meadows and jeffrey clark, who worked at the d.o.j., are both taking the stance of saying, we re federal people. we were serving the president in that role. and therefore, this doesn t belong in a state court. had nothing to do with what happened at the state. david shaffer, you mentioned him. gop georgia chairman. he s trying to make the same claim. i was doing what i was hearing from the top. he would like to join them in federal court. it slows everything down. anything you do anything in this case, it will slow it down. all these people, all these lawyers, a lot of things will get slowed down. that s one of the slowing things. potentially, more sympathetic jurors. the debate about this. but the notion being, if you broaden the jury pool in a