with lawrence o donnell. good evening lawrence. good evening, alex, i was listening to your coverage about the possibility of donald trump testifying to the january six committee, even after he gets a subpoena. and of course, he will fight it all the way. and we ll pretend though at the same time, through strategic legs, oh yeah, he s thinking about it, maybe he ll do it. like he did with the mueller investigation for so long. there is no chance he was ever going to testify. it s all a routine. it s all a hoax! don t believe it! i mean, the idea that he d been cooperative at the same time while he s throwing every bit of sand he can into the works is like, you know, come on, we know fully once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me. we all know how the story ends. you know who s going to testify? his mascot, lindsey graham has been ordered by the federal appeals court to testify to the georgia grand jury that is investigating among other things lindsey graham s phone cal
Judge dearie to rule on these issues. they seem quite frivolous. it will be an interesting night when we discover whose name was in that clemency document that donald trump calls personal in this inventory of documents. harry, lippman what did you get from reading the justice department s reading of the disputes? since we re picking favorites, i would go six and seven with what donald trump says that a record is personal is somehow also an official record of the government. that is so clearly the null said. but there are two arguments here, and i agree with andrew that dairy should make quick work of them. then we will see what cannon does. but the 11th circuit, obviously, ought to be the backstop here. when is where he basically asserts, implicitly, that he can take a document that was government driven and related, wave his hand, and make it personal after his presidency. that should be a loser.
Cost to him that doesn t occurred to the john eastman s or the donald trump s of the world. so we will see how he handles it. harry lippman, andrew weizmann, thank you both very much for starting off our discussions tonight. thank you. coming up, we have breaking senate campaign news from georgia. senator raphael warnock today started running this ad about abortion and the trump chosen republican candidate, herschel walker. i m rough hour not can i approve this message. for you, herschel walker was to ban abortion. i ve no exception in my mind. it s not a national ban on abortion right now and, i think that s a problem. form? self herschel walker, paid friend abortion for his then girlfriend. she supported her claims with a 575 dollar receipt from the abortion clinic. even his own son is saying walker is lying. is that your signature on the check? yes, that s my ruffle warren ex campaign
In the georgia presidential election. all i want to do is this, i just want to find what 11,780 votes which is one more than what we have. donald trump s mascot, lindsey graham, lost his appeal in the 11th circuit court of appeals in which lindsey graham was attempting to avoid testifying to that very same grandeur in fulton county, georgia. the three judge panel in the certain court of appeals unanimously two of the three judges ordering lindsey graham to testify were appointed by donald trump with lindsey graham s vote for their confirmation. in the united states senate. leading off our discussion tonight is andrew weizmann, former fbi general counsel and former chief of the criminal division in the eastern district of new york. he is a professor at practice at nyu law school and an msnbc legal. analysts also with us harry lippman, former u.s. attorney and former deputy assistant
False it can go out to the jury and the jury acquitted on all of the other charges that john durham brought. you had the 11th circuit, as you noted, with two of the three judges create appointed by donald trump doing their job. and it s important to see and know to judge cannon is not emblematic to the judiciary. you really have the judiciary looking like they re upholding the rule of law. and whatever judge cannon does, whether she s bold enough to be untethered to the facts of the law, i don t think that is going to hold up in this situation. this is such a clear matter that the 11th circuit has signaled out into separate decisions that they are not going to have any of this. before you, go harry lippman, i would like to go back to the world of news coverage where it doesn t really cross our minds