There was also an on stick until a sense that a lot of christians, because of their faith, because of their love for neighbor resisted going to war. One of most prominent civil war historians, drew gillman foust, argued that killing or trying to get christians to kill for their country was harder than trying to get them to die for their country. The argument was that christians have all along typically had this sense of self sacrifice. But getting someone to actually take up arms and kill, that was the harder courage. That was the harder obstacle to overcome for a lot of people in the civil war era. And thats the same case in the revolutionary war era. The same kind of situation. And this was the fact that there were a lot of loyalists who knew how to quote scripture really well, including the methodists. They can read scripture pretty well. They were like john wesley, for the most part, loyalists. They were english. So i want to talk about a Couple Frameworks or kinds of ways to frame