The former president in office. and so, what you are looking at, conspiratorial activity, you are looking at several individuals that were doing different things but for one purpose. and in layman s terms, that is sort of the essence of what a rico charge is. i want to bring ari back in here now. ari, you know, we know that specifically, rudy giuliani was named as a target in this investigation. but there could potentially be others. what should we be looking for as we wait in anticipation of what he grand jury says? it s a great question, symone. as you pointed out, we have been following this out of georgia for a while. indeed, it was longer running then when jack smith took over the coup probe. you mentioned there s giuliani. there are other individuals who might not have been the target, but brought in. we have footage of some of the witnesses. we know senator lindsey graham, for example, was ultimately a witness as well. and so, one of the questions that we can t answer at thi