east, when they get a clear sense of a serious action with strategic follow-up from the united states they re on our side. fundamentally, history is on gordon s side on this. the one time we got china s support in trying to pressure north korea during the bush administration is when their banks were on notice for sanctions. it s the only example. we don t get china s support with inducements. they won t do it because they like us or agree with us. it has to be maybe a stick and not a carrot. stephen yates and garden chang, thank you to both of you. have a happy thanksgiving. happy thanksgiving. take care, you guys. coming up, breaking news, snarled thanksgiving travel as amtrak suspends service in its crucial northeast corridor. we ll have the latest in just a moment. the things they love to do most on these balloons. travel with my daughter. roller derby. now give up half of em. do i have to? this is a tough financial choice we could face when we retire.