was probably earlier. the concern i d have now, if i were on team trump, is making a move now to pardon him, making a move now to pay his fees. what about pay his bills and say, look, this is an extension of what he was doing for me, i m going to pay his bills. i m not even sure that s ethical at this point. remember, he is a position to i mean cohen is in a position to cooperate against trump. if trump starts paying his legal fees, i mean i think guy petrillo, the lawyer, might not even but all of this supposedly extends from what s going on. and how do you know petrillo is not going to accept it? he wants to get paid, doesn t he? he does, but there are certainly ethical obligations on lawyers that you can t be paid essentially to fail to cooperate against someone. garber, do you agree? yeah, well, that s sort of my point. if what he s being paid for his fees are being paid for, you
enormously, and i think guy petrillo, the new lawyer for michael cohen, sat cohen down and said, hey, let s face reality here. but if you cooperate, you don t have to worry about the sentencing guidelines. so i hear you on that. let me bounce this to you, garber, because where s the there there? there is no case. i get the sentencing guidelines, but we don t even have charges. so what is there to flip on, and what would he have to flip with? yeah. so here s the problem. i ve represented a lot of folks under investigation, and the problem is before you even get to the sentencing guidelines, there s the investigation. i mean think of michael cohen. think of being him and having your office raided, reading about yourself every day in the newspaper, having your career taken away from you, everything, and potentially losing your livelihood, everything, everything, everything. and that, that notion alone, focuses the mind. all right. and many of us in the media, we
say, look, this is an extension of what he was doing for me, i m going to pay his bills. i m not even sure that s ethical at this point. remember, he is a position to i mean cohen is in a position to cooperate against trump. if trump starts paying his legal fees, i mean i think guy petrillo, the lawyer, might not even but all of this supposedly extends from what s going on. and how do you know petrillo is not going to accept it? he wants to get paid, doesn t he? he does, but there are certainly ethical obligations on lawyers that you can t be paid essentially to fail to cooperate against someone. garber, do you agree? yeah, well, that s sort of my point. if what he s being paid for his fees are being paid for, you know, for his legal defense, as you say, chris, arising out of his activities with the trump organization, that s one thing. but if he s being paid to not cooperate, to not talk, that becomes problematic. and if i were representing
have to worry about the sentencing guidelines. so i hear you on that. let me bounce this to you, garber, because where s the there there? there is no case. i get the sentencing guidelines, but we don t even have charges. so what is there to flip on, and what would he have to flip with? yeah. so here s the problem. i ve represented a lot of folks under investigation, and the problem is before you even get to the sentencing guidelines, there s the investigation. i mean think of michael cohen. think of being him and having your office raided, reading about yourself every day in the newspaper, having your career taken away from you, everything, and potentially losing your livelihood, everything, everything, everything. and that, that notion alone, focuses the mind. all right. and many of us in the media, we talk to michael cohen. i certainly do. this has been difficult for him, but we still don t know what the case is about, so we really don t know where the sympathies should lie. an
feel very much let down if i was flying with somebody with this sort of mental disorder and mental history. one expect the aeromedical authorities to manage this situation properly and make sure that pilots are fit to fly. what we are hearing here is an individual i don t know for sure this is the case in this pilot, but if this was if this is true then i don t think he should have been flying. and so we know especially in the states you have hipaa laws that reveal doctors from revealing information, but you wonder if a case like this dr. garber someone who is responsible for hundreds of people as lives on the plane, if there is sort of a minimum and a maximum, a threshold in which a certain medical diagnoses or treatment suddenly becomes information that an airline needs to know or perhaps the