We were talking it was hard to know, you look forward to what happens next, now that you re here in new york reflecting on it, where are people pointing the fingers? there will be plenty of game to go around freight assignment will hud back because people might believe it s as you nami. it was designed for all emergencies. this is not out in the middle o the pacific great tsunami, hurricane or that simon doesn t mean run towards the mountains, i think people are short enough to people try to run away from the flames come up but there wa a number because of that. here s what i was told, i talke to a lot of people. all over west maui including a lot of guys who delve into that fire to fight it. this is what i ve been told. the numbers are going to be way higher. all of these guys said that the didn t want to put numbers on it , they did see many many bodies, i want you to know that