investigation, looking at those states that, this could provide information for that as well. at the same time, it might give information that the grand jury proceedings are secret. she will look at other avenues to share information to. michael moore, thank you so much for your experience and joining us this morning. glad to be with you all. thank you. all right. happening now, secretary of state antony blinken holding high-stakes security talks with russian foreign minister sergey lavrov, aimed at defusing the crisis in ukraine. it seems to suggest nato powers might toll rat a minor incursion by russia in the ukraine. cnn s frederick pleitgen live in geneva, switzerland with more. what s the latest here? reporter: hi there, kasie.