mentioned to manchin, a more moderate influence and they could craft a deal or some sort of understanding on the filibuster. something like that could be cobbled together. what do you think? sure. but again, what this all depends on is whether manchin is willing to abolish the filibuster or change the rules for that for this voting rights bill. for him to do that would be a step against everything that he s said thus far. but who knows. most of the democrats advocating for abolishing filibuster were defending it a couple months ago. manchin could back out on his word. who knows. neil: speaking of joe manchin and where he goes right now within the party, obviously there s a lot of frayed nerved and all that. talk that he might become an independent, caucus with the democrats and leave it and