smell the stink you re creating. that s your doing. that s your stink. that s your swamp. i mean, he then went through issues where trump has muddied the waters. russia meddling. job approval numbers. national debt. the voter fraud issue. he went on and on and on. david, how much did that coming from fox, impact what we heard from the president today? i think when anytime anybody from fox parts with the president and starts criticizing, that causes the president real heartburn. neil has been a more independent voice at times on fox. i think it s very, very clear that what happened here was not rudy yule ianni s fault. what the problem was is that his client, the president of the united states, basically told giuliani some lies about what happened or i think he told him the truth. i think that s more likely that he told him the truth, actually,