If you were opposed to what was happening in the administration, why did you stay? those on the political side don t have an idea. someone like an esper or others, this was always the version we heard from former defense secretary mattis, former national security adviser mcmaster, they felt an obligation to stay to the country. it was their duty to put up some guardrails. they were the ones willing to take the criticism. hey, how could you work for this guy? they felt like, well, if we weren t here, things, as bad as they are now, things would be much worse. it is a different story for those trying to achieve their political games. certainly in the national security sphere, that s the argument they ve made. interesting to see what the defense secretary has to say in a few minutes. it is a good argument. you interviewed deborah birx, mika, and she got secured while she was still in the white house. but, you know, i looked at her even at that time and said, she s in an extraordinarily