institutions, to threaten shipping companies and insurance companies not to work with iran. that was a clear violation of the deal. so it wasn t iran that was violating the deal. they are in no position to complain about iran s actions. and then when trump came, he simply tore up the deal, and the europeans. please, if you would, just address my specific point. are you prepared to accept that if a deal is signed, if you and the americans can find common ground, you will have to live with the fact that it can t be defined as a forever treaty? it is going to be a deal which exists as long as the will is there in the american political system to keep to the deal. you can t have a guarantee. the american system will not deliver. stephen, that s not even the only problem. the americans want to keep many of the sanctions right now. they don t want to give up the sanctions. guarantees aside that s something they can negotiate how about verification?
please, if you would, just address my specific point. are you prepared to accept that if a deal is signed, if you and the americans can find common ground, you will have to live with the fact that it can t be defined as a forever treaty? it is going to be a deal which exists as long as the will is there in the american political system to keep to the deal. you can t have a guarantee. the american system will not deliver. stephen, that s not even the only problem. the americans want to keep many of the sanctions right now. they don t want to give up the sanctions. guarantees aside that s something they can negotiate how about verification? the americans and the europeans will say on paper, we ve removed the sanctions. but when the banking sector, when the insurance companies, when the shipping companies don t work with iran because, behind closed doors, they re telling them something else, then what does iran do? 0k, you ve made the point.
but what we saw in reality was that obama told his treasury to threaten banks, to threaten financial institutions, to threaten shipping companies and insurance companies not to work with iran. that was a clear violation of the deal. so, it wasn t iran that was violating the deal. they are in no position to complain about iran s actions. and then when trump came, he simply tore up the deal, and the europeans. please, if you would, just address my specific point. are you prepared to accept that if a deal is signed, if you and the americans can find common ground, you will have to live with the fact that it can t be defined as a forever treaty? it is going to be a deal which exists as long as the will is there in the american political system to keep to the deal. you can t have a guarantee. the american system will not deliver. stephen, that s not even the only problem. the americans want to keep many of the sanctions right now. they don t want to give up the sanctions. guarantees aside
just address my specific point. are you prepared to accept that if a deal is signed, if you and the americans can find common ground, you will have to live with the fact that it can t be defined as a forever treaty? it is going to be a deal which exists as long as the will is there in the american political system to keep to the deal. you can t have a guarantee. the american system will not deliver. stephen, that s not even the only problem. the americans want to keep many of the sanctions right now. they don t want to give up the sanctions. guarantees aside that s something they can negotiate how about verification? the americans and the europeans will say on paper, we ve removed the sanctions. but when the banking sector, when the insurance companies, when the shipping companies don t work with iran because, behind closed doors, they re telling them something else, then what does iran do? 0k, you ve made the point. but in essence, what you re saying is you do not have one