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Transcripts for MSNBC Hallie Jackson Reports 20240604 14:23:00

Wants. the bar isn t that high. they say they respect precedent. they have different views from stare decisis. justice thomas said the court is duty bound to overturn any precedent that is egregiously wrong. the same words mississippi used in its filing yesterday so the real question is, how many votes are there on this court to say that roe and casey are egregiously wrong. i m counting at least five, possibly six. how do you think it plays out, melissa? i think the real critical factor here is timing. this case will be decided likely in june of 2022, just months before the midterm elections that will send americans to the polls to decide, among other things, control of both houses of congress. i think john roberts, the chief justice of the supreme court, who sees himself as the institutional steward of the court s legitimacy does not want millions of american women

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Transcripts for MSNBC Hallie Jackson Reports 20240604 14:22:00

It, and then the question is what would happen in those other five. this has always been lurking in the background of this case, because what those two cases say is you can t ban abortion flat out. you could restrict it but you can t ban it before viability if the supreme court says well, yes, you can, then that s always been the issue lurking here. that s always been mississippi is basically just coming flat out saying what s always been the background issue here. quick time line wise, the justices will hear this next term. can we expect a decision next june kind of thing? yes. they ll hear the case in probably november or december. melissa, let me turn to you here. every supreme court justice s confirmation hearing they re asked repeatedly about their support for precedent. at every hearing they confirm their support. talk about the bar for, that would have to be met here to in fact do something like pete is talking about and potentially overturn roe like mississippi

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Transcripts for MSNBC Hallie Jackson Reports 20240604 14:20:00

A very limited investigation, but nonetheless, there are these allegations out there that senators would like to see and perhaps investigate, hallie. thank you very much for that. brett kavanaugh is one of nine people who will? n a matter of months decide the future of legal abortion in many states across the country, because the supreme court is now being asked to overturn roe v. wade, coming from a new filing from the state of mississippi justices agreeing to hear a case next term whether a law from that state that would ban abortions after 15 weeks is constitutional but the mississippi ag wants the court to go all the way and explicitly asking to overturn that landmark 1973 ruling. activists have been bracing for this one especially since the court s ideological balance shifted after appointments made by former president donald trump. i want to bring in nbc s justice correspondent pete williams, melissa murray, legal analyst and former clerk to sonia

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Transcripts for MSNBC Hallie Jackson Reports 20240604 14:13:00

As you know. dr. natalie azar, thank you so much. keir simmons, cal perry, antonio hilton, thank you so much. keir as we mentioned in japan. coming up, more on the olympics, new protests plus extreme heat adding another challenge for those athletes and a look at what the first lady is up to there. also the new and very real push to overturn roe v. wade. could the supreme court strike down its own ruling? democrats blast the fbi saying the agency failed to fully investigate allegations against brett kavanaugh. now details on that next. nothing will stop me from vacation. no canceling. flexible cancellation. kayak. search one and done.

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Transcripts for MSNBC Hallie Jackson Reports 20240604 14:21:00

Sotomayor. pete, what would a ruling in favor of mississippi do as it relates to abortion in this country? it depends on what the court says. if the court finds a narrow way to uphold the mississippi law, which would ban abortion after 15 weeks without overturn roe v. wade, it would open the door to other states to try something similar. the mr. emis if you say well it s okay to ban abortion before viability, which is what roe and the follow-on case called casey basically said to the court you can t do that before viability. if the court says yes, you can, then what s the difference between 15 weeks and two weeks or zero weeks? if the court were to completely overturn roe v. wade those rulings say states can t ban it. if those decisions are off the books, states could if they wanted 24 states almost certainly would. 21 states almost certainly would not and would continue to allow

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