issue subpoenas to these people because i can t imagine they re going to voluntarily participate. the big issue, willie, there is a precedent that has been set by steve bannon, that these folks are just not going to cooperate on their own. even if they get a subpoena, they re not going to cooperate. kevin mccarthy said last week, or i think it was last week, he said, well, it is an illegitimate committee, so he has a right to fight the subpoena. which is not true. this committee has subpoena power. it can subpoena people. people must and democrats have already submitted one motion to doj to hold steve bannon in contempt. i get the sense that democrats are quite serious here, along with liz cheney.
and this investigation is going to go the duration of the congress, straight to the end of next year. there s going to be court cases. people are going to fight the subpoenas. we already see that. but they have to wrap it up before the end of next year because there is a chance, a relatively good chance, better than 50/50, that republicans take back the house, and this would be done. that s the framework to look at this through. eddie, if you and i are subpoenaed, we have to show us or there is a criminal penalty. now these have been referred to the justice department, they will, as jake said, get tied up in the courts. it may take some time before we hear that. we should point out for all the focus on steve bannon, he wants to be a martyr, there are trump staffers, members of that administration who are cooperating with the select committee, who are telling about what they know that happened the days leading up to the january 6th attack and what happened that day. so this committee
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