Current state of political extremism. here he is. this is not normal. this is so abnormal in the political arena we re in today. if you are a democrat they want you to villainize republicans and vice versa. that is not what the founding fathers intended. harris: your reaction to that. he is absolutely right. i do think a lot of villainizing democrats attempt to paint republicans as extremists. people who care about the economy, who care about what their kids are learning in school. who care what the next step is for the future and see a u.s. government taking on more debt than they can pay back at this particular time without saddling onto the grandkids and grandkids of the children who have to pay this debt back. he is right about that. when we think about the no labels party, i think david axelrod is spot on.
Going far enough. so there will be a lot of people tuning into this debate to hear the alternative solutions or what happens when you have a republican in the white house. not long ago we remember things were good. gas was cheap. we could afford our groceries and get a vacation on the calendar. not the case for so many americans. joe biden is the reason why. harris: i want to stay with you for a second. des moines register poll out this morning. we were just talking previously. david, you mentioned where some of the candidates fall and i did as well. it is showing that ron desantis is still the clear alternative to trump in iowa. closer than it may seem. we saw vivek ramaswamy moving up particularly in iowa. a place where you would see tim scott move up. what do you make of where the pack stands going into the debate? it is another sign of people starting to pay attention. i heard a lot about that in
$25 million ad buy that covers key voting states, arizona, michigan, nevada, pennsylvania, wisconsin. in focus david car lucci former democratic senator and cassie, former executive director for the america rising pact. late to the party but on. the president s team is still relatively small for biden. what do you make of it. well, i think now with the debates happening and the president talking about spending $25 million really a record this early in the campaign, it will jocks will bring forth the difference. the republican candidates are trying to have their cake and eat it too, they don t want to talk negatively about trump or his policies. i think it is a losing strategy. you have donald trump who is
Voters owe him. republican voters often say they like that mr. trump is a fighter but for whom is he fighting? them or himself? your thoughts on that, david. yeah, i couldn t agree more. this is a real problem for donald trump. he really made a name for himself in the debates in 2016. now he is falling on complacency. he is afraid he will be challenged. he is stepping down from the debate. i think that s when you see politicians at their weakest point. when they think they are so popular they don t have to go to the rubber chicken dinners or shake everyone s hands or court the voters like they did and where you see a politician peak and they start to come down. i think it s a real miscalculation for donald trump not to show up. of course the rose garden strategy every politician wants to do. it is easy. you have to do the hard work particularly for an incumbent